echovar: The Real-Time Web and Information Arbitrage
dave
· 5 months ago
Where are some examples of people making the Slowsky argument? I'd love to see what they say.
dave
· 5 months ago
Hmmm. It's taken you more than 3 minutes to respond. Not very realtime! :-)
cgerrish
· 5 months ago
Speed is necessary, but not sufficient for the economics of the real-time web. For examples of the 'slowsky' argument -- look for responses to FriendFeed's move to real time.
ReeseJones1
· 5 months ago
A 2007 example real "realtime" internet media using then existing telecommunications infrastructure with 40 cameras/stream + audio in realtime over 12k miles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfNC_x0VvE You could use RSS/Atom/Web feeds to schedule such real real-time meetings.
And some thinking about the speed value resident in information: consider the geologic and astronomical records - for modeling the future economic value of asteroid hits. Not fast, but high value when needed. A kind of Slowsky contemplation.
cgerrish
· 5 months ago
In geologic and astronomical time scales, any human communication would be considered very fast. And if an asteroid was headed toward earth, I doubt we would consider it a matter for slow contemplation.
ReeseJones1
· 5 months ago
Artful blog site & conversation topic Cliff. Most favor sending any data over the internet faster (RSS, Twitter, Hubble or 3D tele-presence).
Astronomy/Geology are some ways "Slowsky" like for precision, but these predict things that can move very fast. Many thousands of years of Slow careful human astronomy data collection, analysis and forecasting through all history (now including employing the fastest network communications infrastructure and powerful compute resources worldwide). Recently the orbit risks of >5,000 asteroid like objects (NEOs) have been identified including >70 large ones with probable earth collision orbits http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ You could even help via the ASE/UN project http://apps.facebook.com/causes/view_cause/26779 There are likely 10,000 more NEOs yet to be detected.
Combine astronomy data analysis & communications (you may have noticed both Google & Microsoft are hot on astronomy) with geologic fossil record analysis of historical asteroid collisions data to determine impact consequences. We know "an asteroid (several are) headed toward earth", we also know timing and probable consequences. But the recent first ever forecasted Asteroid/Earth collision (2008 TC3) last year was detected only 1.5 days prior to impact.
2008 TC3 could have hit New York, London, or Tokyo. Future impacts may be a similar Fast surprises plus the already identified NEOs on probable collision orbits. We also know there are financial market risks and legal risks of these events (see ASE/NEO/UN program).
Perhaps Twitter or RSS will help observers to report the next asteroid collision path, perhaps detected by an armature astronomer like this week's Jupiter collision reported to the IAU http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/weekinreview/....
Faster is better for some things but Slowsky patience like watching star fields to notice a shadow passing between, logging, then reporting it appropriately - is how these asteroids are detected. An urgent report of inaccurate data delivered faster will not yield a better result. A Tweet urging - "An Asteroid is going to hit" the incorrect place... will not be best for anyone (except the "fame" of being the very first to report... something... perhaps wrong). Mindful "Slow" action can be good.
Consider the Slow Food movement and other slow deliberate movements. Perhaps there is a Slowsky argument ;)
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And some thinking about the speed value resident in information: consider the geologic and astronomical records - for modeling the future economic value of asteroid hits. Not fast, but high value when needed. A kind of Slowsky contemplation.
Astronomy/Geology are some ways "Slowsky" like for precision, but these predict things that can move very fast. Many thousands of years of Slow careful human astronomy data collection, analysis and forecasting through all history (now including employing the fastest network communications infrastructure and powerful compute resources worldwide). Recently the orbit risks of >5,000 asteroid like objects (NEOs) have been identified including >70 large ones with probable earth collision orbits http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ You could even help via the ASE/UN project http://apps.facebook.com/causes/view_cause/26779 There are likely 10,000 more NEOs yet to be detected.
Combine astronomy data analysis & communications (you may have noticed both Google & Microsoft are hot on astronomy) with geologic fossil record analysis of historical asteroid collisions data to determine impact consequences. We know "an asteroid (several are) headed toward earth", we also know timing and probable consequences. But the recent first ever forecasted Asteroid/Earth collision (2008 TC3) last year was detected only 1.5 days prior to impact.
2008 TC3 could have hit New York, London, or Tokyo. Future impacts may be a similar Fast surprises plus the already identified NEOs on probable collision orbits. We also know there are financial market risks and legal risks of these events (see ASE/NEO/UN program).
Perhaps Twitter or RSS will help observers to report the next asteroid collision path, perhaps detected by an armature astronomer like this week's Jupiter collision reported to the IAU http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/weekinreview/....
Faster is better for some things but Slowsky patience like watching star fields to notice a shadow passing between, logging, then reporting it appropriately - is how these asteroids are detected. An urgent report of inaccurate data delivered faster will not yield a better result. A Tweet urging - "An Asteroid is going to hit" the incorrect place... will not be best for anyone (except the "fame" of being the very first to report... something... perhaps wrong). Mindful "Slow" action can be good.
Consider the Slow Food movement and other slow deliberate movements. Perhaps there is a Slowsky argument ;)